PMS – CSS Mock Interview By CSPs | Hamid Ehsan PMS – PUNJAB 2021 Mock Interview
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Hamid Ehsan PMS PUNJAB 2021 Mock Interview | PMS Mock Interview Session
Candidate Welcome by Panelists | CSS – PMS Q&A Session
your good name
Hamid Khan
you have done the written part of your
examination
yes sir
for the pms
when this result came is that the result
when it when it was announced that it
was announced on 30th of december how
many people have qualified the 619 619
how many seats are there
59 excluding
here thank you very much you’re ready
for the interview yes sir i’m ready we
are four people yes sir jointly
yes and i’m expecting that
jelly you introduced yourself to all of
us
sir
as you know my name is hamidhisan and i
belong to any gradient family of salgo
from where i got my early education
so currently i am working on my phd
proposal with my potential supervisor
from the punjab university
and the area i am working on is indian
military modernization and its security
implication on south asia
as it is the extension of my anfield
dissertation which was on the india as a
factor in sign of pakistan relations and
its security implication
for south asia
sir along with that i am also writing
articles in different national and
international portals for instance my
articles have been published in
strafa asia it is an international
portal a uk-based international portal
and along with that sir there are
policies in policies i have also got my
article published and in daily departure
these are some or the portals where
my articles are being published
sir as far as my educational career is
concerned
sir i did intermediate from government
college lahore
and sir apart from all the certificates
that i got during my early education
so the baggage that i got throughout my
education was cultural diversity so
the government college university is
known for that diversity and from the
former kingston college i did honors in
political science and i remained the
student of the enlightened mind like
dr alpha siddhaza and dr sikandar
whom i admire a lot
because they actually helped me to
develop such habits as
the reading reading habit sir along
with that
former christian college also gave me
some leadership skills because i was the
elected president of the former
political science society there
so sir as a president i also along with
my team we initiated some
some international symposium where we
call invited different international
lecturers for instance also came on
our invitation and along with that other
respected members were invited sir
after this very initiative that we
took there for the international
symposium what we learned we learned the
value of the teamwork and the value of
taking the initiative which is still
going on in which was initiated by us
and still is being embraced by the
university so after that sir i went to
kaidatham university for my anfield
in international relations again sir i
was very fortunate to be mentored by
the the enlightened minds like doctor
jafar nawaz is paul and dr nazir hussain
with whom i did my dissertation and
during my stay in
in my during my stay in the kyrgyzstan
university so i developed somehow the
analytical abilities which are helping
me out to writing my in writing my
dissertation the proposal for the phd
and the articles nowadays
i’m going to ask you a few questions yes
sir take it quickly
then i will pass you on to right side
okay
okay
now you tell me how you will deserve
what is your understanding of pakistani
society because you have been with very
good teachers yes sir
how you will define it how you will
experience sir i believe that
pakistani society is a very
heterogeneous society is is
culturally diverse
if we see
in the perspective of education we will
come to realize that those segment of
the society that segment of the society
which is educated it is somehow very
embracing and very welcoming towards
the diverse views what i have learned
throughout my educational career and
those who are not well acquainted with
the education or those who are not well
educated they are still they are still
not welcoming to the diverse ideas for
which we are actually witnessing some
some remnants of extremism and
intolerance in our society so on that
very basis or i judge our society is
really very diverse we have different
different cultures like sindhi blochy
punjabi and in punjab we have saraki
culture and in punjab different we have
the porto hari culture the centralized
punjabis so it’s cumulative we can call
it a very diverse society as a society
and so secondly what i believe of the
society of the punjabi society if we see
the cultural aspects of the society
so the culture of the punjabi punjab the
pakistani society
is really very
welcoming and adaptive for instance
we have the punjabi society has
adopted the concept of basan
sabasanti the cultural festival which is
banned now
due to some human cost so what we have
adopted it from indian culture of
basant india the person is the
representation of spring so in in all
the cumulative sense we can say that
it’s
a culturally diverse society is a
traditionally diverse society now you
tell me the culture is part of the
society our society is part of the
culture so it’s like the same debate
which come for a sec or at the hand so
says it can be taken the both ways but
society is i believe that the society is
the overarching structure of which a
culture is the part sometimes culture
takes a lead and sometimes society takes
the lead
but eventually we will come to the
conclusion that culture is the part of
the society you said that you have
learnt
leadership skills can you define
leadership for me what is leadership so
leadership is a diverse phenomenon that
i would like to take the lead from
max weber
who has done a lot of work on leadership
as well so he says the leadership is a
two-way process it’s a process between
the leader and the led and the
purpose of the leadership is to pull out
the society from the distressful
situation or the situation in in which
they are
there there are some lackings so the
leadership is the person leader is the
person who bridges those kinds of
lacunas in the society or those
those
lackings in the people who feel that we
should have some kind of guidance
to how do you see the future of
democracy in pakistan
sir
in one line i i see that the future of
pakistan and the democracy in pakistan
is really very promising we are
witnessing the transitional governments
and it is very welcoming sir there are
some people and some even scholars who
believe that we should
the democracy couldn’t serve well but
the issue lies in the fact that how much
time have we given to this very concept
sir
we have example of turkey why the
democracy has got stabilized in turkey
because turkey has written the third
transitional transition in its democracy
now we see the army is getting behind
the barracks now
army has realized its constitutional
role to a greater extent and and we
are in the same manner we are in the
transitional phase and this is the third
this would be the third transition in
2023 which will help us to realize
eventually that that would be the
actually the consolidation phase phase
of the suicide democracy in the country
my last question with reference to
afghanistan
the term is being used big game
in afghanistan and who are the players
can you explain it sir big game
the term which is used is for the big
powers that are involved there
so sir if we see there are some internal
there are some internal stakeholders and
there are some external stakeholders in
the extended stakeholders we see the
regional stakeholders and the extra
regional stakeholders for instance the
extra regional stakeholder there is usa
there is
russia and now there is
turkey turkey is being involved in the
process now on the on the call of usa
and sir
the original players involved pakistan
the neighboring country
iran china the central asian countries
india is the part of that very
process and in the internal stakeholder
we see that there are talibans there are
some other non-state actors like isis
what is there why these all players are
there in pakistan playing this big game
what is their interest what is the
incentive yes sir every country has its
own incentive in afghanistan so for
instance
i would start from united states of
america so in the united states of the
pentagon got its report published in
2018 which clearly states that our
interest in afghanistan is not to defeat
taliban but our interest in afghanistan
is to have the interest rate strategy
competition so we can see the united
states is there for the interstate
strategy competition so as far as the
russia is concerned sadashiva has its
old claims russia wants to compete
u.s in afghanistan or south asia and
russia wants to have access to the
warm waters of the arabian sea so as far
as china is concerned china is massively
investing in is planning to invest
in iran of 450 billion dollars so for
that china needs the power through
for china it is very important for to
be to have peace in afghanistan for the
investment that china is going to make
for india sir india is following its
kotalian policy india is india wants to
extend its tentacle across the border
and wants to become invincible in the
region so india
wants to engage pakistan through
afghanistan and india wants to have its
soft image in afghanistan because india
is building their the soft image by the
soft
by the social capital india is investing
of three billion dollars in
afghanistan so indian interest is to
counter pakistan’s so pakistani interest
is very clear pakistan wants peace in
afghanistan because the peace in
afghanistan is correlated with the peace
in pakistan as we have written during
the eras of 90s that the whatever
happens in afghanistan will have the
spillover effect on pakistan as well so
turkey turkey wants to have the
leadership of the muslim world
turkey wants to take the lead
still afghanistan is not the the taliban
does not want turkey to have their
presence under the umbrella of nato in
afghanistan so they are not listening to
them so these are the major regional
players thank you
there is a lot of
noise
in the parliament roudism
you see
allegations against asia even they have
gone to the extent of abusing each other
and
there have been some fights also fistful
blown into each other
why why it is so why has
the working of parliament
gone
to that extent
it is
it looks that it is
you see
going down the drain
sir in parliaments are the the recent
ruckus or the rumbles that we have just
witnessed in the past few weeks that
it was really condemnable so the issue
what i believe is the issue of
intolerance that is prevailing in our
society which has resulted into
the non-parliamentary behavior of our
parliamentarians
sir secondly sir
instead of
instead of pursuing the national
interest we are unfortunately our
parliamentarians are pursuing their
personal interests at the party interest
they’re defending their party
irrespective of the fact that to what
extent they are going
and sir thirdly sir like like what so
like
they they want to defend their party in
any manner for instance if there is
something wrong in the party in the
wrong and the government the incumbent
government for instance recently we just
witnessed there was a load shedding
as a simple example and the sitting
parties started accusing the previous
governments of that very issue which is
still we are facing
so and it it there is always a small
there is always a small number that
leads to the major fire fires that it
was that small number that actually
resulted into the fire so second is our
own on the budgets so we have just
witnessed that how
how intolerant they have become over the
budget debates they did not let
the
the opposition leader which is very
important to who whose speech is very
important in the national assembly on
the budget they did not let the
opposition leader to speak on it
so this kind of behavior actually shows
the intolerance on either side of the
aisle in the parliament sir the issue
if i take the issue sir so this is the
basic issue
in our extremist behavior that we have
adopted unconsciously over the decades
so the major issue is that regarding
this parliament request
and so secondly
i also want to add so there is a
concept of power above vacuum
such type of
vacuums should not be created in our
parliamentary system as we are just in
the transitional phase and such
transitional phase gave
also always give
the non-democratic forces to come and
fill the gap so so the parliamentary
parliamentarians should behave
responsibly for that matter how do you
differentiate between
international relations and
diplomatic relations
sir
as far as my understanding regarding
international relations and the
diplomatic relations are concerned so
they are actually the two sides of the
same coin
so
diplomatic sometimes inter
international relation is entirely
a subject a complete subject of our
relations so diplomatic relations are
actually our relations with
international organization the
international parties or the
international states states as an actors
or the institutions as a bodies or
regimes in which we are interacting so
sorry international relation is a
subject of which diplomatic relation is
a part
so international relation is an umbrella
term for the diplomatic relations very
difficult
you have given a very
difficult answer
and i tried to make it simpler
what do you mean by nuclear safety
nuclear safety is
the concept which
which is about
the nuclear countries who have acquired
the nuclear power who are they
acquired the nuclear weapon so as far as
the nuclear concept of the nuclear
safety is the concept that we
as the responsible nuclear states there
are around seven nuclear states in the
world and
they are
they are considered to behave
responsibly so so for that they make
some plans for their nuclear safety in
in the fact that it should there should
not be any kind of theft as is happening
in india right away nowadays we have
witnessed there twice in a week after
what as a theft of uranium the new
so those centrifugal forces which may
help for the nuclear engagement such
kind of theft so for that we have
actually established the whole security
for our nuclear safety that is such
spd it’s a special planned vision for
nuclear safety for which we have also
allocated our budget we have also
recruited some 7 000
personnel there for the purpose of the
nuclear safety okay
how many nucleus summits have so far
been taking place
so i’m sorry i i don’t know about it but
the recently iaea has been has
called a meeting in geneva
and appreciated the efforts of pakistan
regarding the civil nuclear nuclear
enrichment and the nuclear safety of
pakistan
nuclear summits they are different than
this the one which you are referring to
right
terrorism you see is a scourge which we
are facing
so many years
how do you think we can we
we can fight it out effectively
sir
terrorism sir is
is actually has
to some extent was it ingrained in our
society we have witnesses in the past
but somehow sir
if we see the two approaches the soft
approach and the hard approach as far as
the hard approach is concerned we have
done a lot so we have
laid down some 74 000 of our lives and
125 billion dollars in this war against
error
we have initiated different
operations operations
operations
are some of the operations that we have
we have taken out against terrorism so
now so what we need to do is
we need to do something on the softer
side for instance we need to have the
basic idea that from where the terrorism
starts so for instance in blochesan we
see sir bla blf they are operating
follow simple follow the national action
plan yes sir you see implement the
national action plan
you see to its entirety that is the only
there are there are
many points on which
the national accent plan is lagging
right
you see work
on those points have not been completed
so there are big gaps in it that is why
we are facing this problem national
action plan has to be implemented and
it’s
in real terms if we
want to
be effective in this area
and finally
difficulty in maintaining work life
balance that is your weakness
what does what do you mean by this in
maintaining work life balance
sir
sir i have remained out of my house
i am i am leading a hostel life since
2008.
sir after that i was totally engaged in
my education and studies so normally i
don’t get enough time to spend with my
family normally sir i used to live in
hostel for three or four months even my
father used to come to pakistan he is an
expatriate he used to come pakistan and
sometimes i i caught only two or three
days to meet him so what do you what do
you mean by this
yeah
basically
i am too indulged in my work and my
family is getting compromised over this
my life is getting compromised for this
how many you seem to be a very smart boy
3.9 gpa
right man why do you want to come to the
civil service
ma’am as far as the education is
concerned and there is there is no
age limit to this and it is a very noble
noble thing to take education ma’am
now there there are three major factors
that i really want to join civil service
now ma’am first of all i have an
inspiration within me because
i was in grade 12 or in grade 11.
an incident happened in our village
which actually
in inculcated in me to do something like
the person did now may i narrate the
incident memory
there was an assistant commissioner i
i couldn’t recall the name of that very
person
madam in in our village there is a
railway line there is a crossing in our
village of railway line and
and there is a school on one side of the
across the railway line and the small
kids used to go to school every day and
ma’am there were incident every other
month or two there was an incident of
visuality of a small kid and the people
were very worried about it they
complained about it and the assistant
commissioner visited and ma’am what i
saw there and i want to quote it when he
announced that there would be
the railway
there will be a check on it there will
be a person sitting here who will
maintain all this and there will be
gates on this so that we can avoid
such casualties down the line madam then
i saw a lady who was actually lifting
her dubatta up and giving praise
to the ac
and she was praising and she was weeping
at the same time
madam at that time actually a wave
went through through my body and i
realized how nobler is this profession
where you are not a doctor and you are
saving the lives of people so that was
my first inspiration towards this and
man secondly some three four months
ago i read a book ikigai
actually i went through its review
it was a book the ikigai is a japanese
word which is which means that reason
for being and the c and reason for being
that for what reason you are living
he in the book the author discusses
about three things he says that when
your passion meets your profession
and you get your financial stability out
of your that profession then that is the
best job you need to do and i think that
my passion will meet my profession and i
will get a salary out of it
and it will help me okay thank you in
your one of your remarks you alluded to
cotillia yes when you spoke of indian
strategy in afghanistan
and i suppose you’re quoting
yes and it is enemy of my enemy is my
friend yes ma’am
would that mean that you consider
afghanistan as an enemy
we mem
no ma’am there is another another
principle in arthashastra which says
that if if you have some strong interest
with your enemy with your neighboring
country basically kotalia says every
neighbor is your natural enemy
the basic concept of italian philosophy
is every your neighbor is your natural
enemy and the enemy of that enemy is
your friend
so it means the neighbor of that
neighbor that very neighbor is our
friend so what happens in case of
afghanistan
we have strong kotalia says when you
have strong interest with your
neighboring country then the principle
does not apply here for instance we see
in case of china we see that india does
not share very good relation with china
but india still does have 100 billion
trade with china around 100 billion
trade with china and it applies the
kotalian philosophy here the same case
of ours is with afghanistan because our
enmity with afghanistan will result into
our with result into costing of our own
very national interest which we do not
want actually so for that matter we will
have we will again follow the italian
principle here that we will manage good
relationship with our neighbors as well
so what’s your understanding of
mahabharat
ma’am i only know about the long it
is a long tail
but i i really don’t read about it and
don’t read about it so
because mahabharata is basically
the indian ghandwas concept of the
region that india
has the right
for territory from central asia to
abdomen
right man
thank you thank you very much
okay your answers quite smartly okay
after
governor generalship of kaithazam
to governments dissolve what you say
about it and do you think it’s a
democracy
under the governor general of the
government what was dissolved
two governments and provinces here
the 1947
till that until the death of james
again we’ll talk about simon commission
simon commissioner came to
subcontinent there was a slogans go back
simon go back simon kaidos he was a
constitutional lawyer as well he was
very strong in constitutional law
he was he will again in only be opposed
kia
kyung here or tiki
so at that time it was right on part
of kythem and every other political
party this was right because simon
commission in the simon commission we
have it and there was not any indian
that was incorporated in the plan
so
neither was the congress here nor was
the muslim league there so without
incorporating the people of
the subcontinent in the plan how can you
make policies for those very people who
are not part of the plan so again it was
constitutional demand on part of pride
and that the muslims and the hindus
have you read the end of history in
the last one by francis propaganda sir i
have gone through the review of end of
history basically he says the francis
fukuyama says that democracy and the
liberal ideas
have won over the communism and this
would be the end of history now there
will be no other system that will
compete democracy and yes it does not
mean that democracy will become static
there may be improvement in the
democratic system but it will stay the
same it will stay a democracy the
liberal world idea it was basically
the conquest of the liberal world
after demise of the soviet union
okay okay well
well again in 1996 there was a book
clash of civilization and remaking of
new world order in which samuel p
clinton discussed seven civilizations
in the last chapter he told he he said
your future
politics
or third civilization to play a very
vital role sorry for my memory and
knowledge serves me well so i believe
that he said that there would be a clash
between the confucius civilization and
the western civilization and the islamic
civilization will play a major part in
this
sure so if my memory serves me well sir
check it again it’s a hindu civilization
so that’s why you as united states of
america change their policies towards
india
international relations there is
generally stated that
hitler fought a war of destruction
against france and
britain
but hitler fought a war of extermination
against soviet russia what did it mean
war of external extermination
sir no sir i haven’t read this statement
earlier
so i have
remarks on this thing that he says that
hitler out of his power he wanted to
actually take the lead of the world
so for that matter he extended its
tentacles toward the russia at the
stalingrad
stalingrad
the and i will quote he said that our
men will become will come back to our
country before spring
so whoa
lake in what happened there we it rest
is history now
that’s forces got stuck there and they
got freeze there and
that was actually the hitler’s plan then
then i can say that it was a hitler plan
to exterminate russia which was once his
ally during the war okay robert d kaplan
okay thank you let’s conclude it
we concluded this session
thank you hmm much
so let’s be informal and it is a
feedback session yes it is a sort of
training session for you
so
i mean there are a lot many areas where
there
you have to you need
quite
good very very good personality is very
fine your communication skill up aboard
you are intelligent you are confident
you are knowledgeable
number one keep it up all right sir
don’t
relax
daily basis
or constitution cooperative district
province
18th amendment
you’re a very brilliant boy
and believe me you’ll be frustrated if
you get into government service
i’m telling you very seriously
with your kind of intelligence this
isn’t the place for you
but nevertheless since you’re coming in
is not just religious
it is their
strategic thinking which they have
translated into
religion and mythified it yes ma’am
right over
the thesis about indian military buildup
was may it should be a very core element
of your thesis
so
don’t look at it seriously
i’m confident as a shock shakatsu nikaha
you will do very well
but
as you know
elderly figure i can tell you okay
this isn’t the place for you
ma’am actually i wanna
i was the qualifier of 2018 in ce 2018
i couldn’t
do good in the interview i scored
only 127 in the interview
despite scoring 680 in in the written
part to
mam i was little confused honestly i
was confused because i was only one
foodie family i was the first with
little very little guidance i had no
idea about it
secondly
just don’t mention
just tell
Sequencing
you have got the knowledge
to be you as a legend you are thinking
and you are talk speak right sir thank
you thank you very much